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Nevyn Auscent
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Posted - 2016.02.12 01:11:17 -
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How long that list is says you should get rid of racial ECM modules. Omni ECM & scripts/ammo if you really really have to keep some form of focusing. Scripts as ammo gives a meaning to specialising to only a single type since you can't keep it up forever as a result. But you don't have to fit different turrets for shooting different races, and you don't have to fit different damps/painters for different races either (The disruptor also should have been universal.). So Omni ECM and some form of ammo lands us back in a sweet spot of common sense & still meaningful choices of what ammo to carry. |
Nevyn Auscent
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Posted - 2016.02.13 00:09:19 -
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Richard TheLordOfDance wrote:
And to the people saying that the modules should be scripted instead of racially aligned, why in the world would you want to give people a ecm ship that could instantly swap around it's jamming strengths!? Combat refitting is already on its way out and you want to reintroduce one of it's many symptoms straight away...
A script does not 'have' to be instant swap. Treating it like ammo and requiring a reload period allows you to actually put tank on your ECM ships without having to armour tank them while still being able to adapt to the targets fleet comp. Higher fitting requirements in return might also be a good thing to make it hard to fit a full rack of ECM if they were swappable like that. |
Nevyn Auscent
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Posted - 2016.02.13 21:24:11 -
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unidenify wrote:
purpose of T1 is to provide itself as material for T2 production so it is still not useless
It could have still been made to be an actually practical fit as well.
I.E.
T1 ECM Strength 100%, Range 100%, Fitting 100% to give relative values.
Meta ECM Strength 110 Range 90% Fitting 90% to give an example, >100% being improvement, under 100% being penalty.
T2 then is 110% across the board or something.
However that is more a debate for the entire module tiericide in general than just ECM. ECM just happened to be one of the module categories where Meta 4 was out of balance and better (or at least equal) than T2 in all aspects. And so people are upset that the long overdue meta 4 nerf has happened. |
Nevyn Auscent
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Posted - 2016.02.13 23:28:16 -
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unidenify wrote:
Meta 4 thing apply to EWAR modules including Warp Scrambler/Distruptor so, plenty of people are not happy about this change
Sure, however it was an out of balance thing that Meta 4 was better than T2, and was always going to be corrected at some point. Just the tiericide initiative meant it got combined with the other changes at the same time. But the nerf was going to come sooner or later.
People got upset over the Ishtar nerfs as well, but they were needed, so was the correction between Meta 4 & T2. |
Nevyn Auscent
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Posted - 2016.02.15 19:45:29 -
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Zetakya wrote:
A scripted ECM with a 60s "install" timer will actually be slower than the current refit system, because once your Yurt is down refitting only costs you however much time it takes to warp out & in (which you are probably doing anyway to evade tacklers & alpha strike attempts).
If anything, a scripted ECM will be less flexible than the current racial system, as a script would make the off-race jam strength zero (assuming it works the same way as all other scripts), removing the option of trying off-race jams in desperation.
I'm not asking for a huge buff to ECM here; I'm just asking for the game mechanic to be changed from the current clunky "Depot & Hold full of Racials" to a script system (with a script install timer) that streamlines the existing gameplay.
Only in the situation you are describing will it be slower. In the middle of a fight when new people join to third party, it will be faster. Also nothing says it has to be 60 sec. I'd be happy with 20 or 30 sec also. The main point is to make it a significant opportunity lost to change racial scripts, encouraging some use of the module in omni mode because some jam now is worth more than no jam now in some cases.
Scripted jams will also mean you no longer have to have 6 jams fitted to be able to do your job, but 2 or 3 jams, allowing for shield tanked ECM fits, sure people will still run with 6, but it will no longer be considered a requirement but an option. |
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